Friday, September 2, 2011

The Great Guide to choosing the right computer hardware.

Many times people who want to build a nice gaming rig or a rig for 3D modeling sometimes end up overspending on some parts.



Guide to building your computer:
http://cytech.blogspot.com/2011/09/great-guide-to-building-your-computer.html


CPU



Choosing the right brain for your computer.

You should put a considerable budget on you cpu as by buying a good cpu you will make sure that your video card (gpu) will not get bottlenecked or slowed down by your cpu. However what some people do is they buy a decent cpu and when the new cpu comes out they just switch it. This was quite a problem in the past since many motherboards did not support the newer cpus, but today LGA1555 socket motherboards will support the new 22nm Ivy brigde cpus, but on some motherboards you will have to check with the manufacturer if it needs a firmware update, sometimes it will need a BIOS flash. Make sure you know what you are doing when doing BIOS flashing if your motherboard does not have an automatic update or a user friendly version of such update.

Many times when people ask around what cpu to get everyone will just scream the top cpus such as i5 2500K or i7 2600k. While the overclockers should consider buying such models a regular computer user or gamer will not need such cpu if they never plan to overclock or if you are on a tight budget there is no point in buying a K series processor without getting a decent cooling system. For those who do not know what the K stands for, it means that the cpu multiplyer is unlocked within cpu which means you can change it when overclocking which gets you a very nice and stable performance boost.

One way to look out for great deals on cpus is to look for the instant rebates in computer stores, if you see a decent cpu such as i5 2400 with 20$ off the original price its a great deal. While some people may think that 20$ off is not much for buying a 190$ cpu, these instant rebates add up if you were to buy other parts with the same rebates. Many times by buying with such offers you will sometimes save over 100$ on the whole computer, however these rebates will not last forever and will revert to the original price in no time. A word of  caution on the mail-in-rebates many manufacturers love to put those since many will just forget to mail in the proper form, and sometimes if one thing is wrong you will loose the rebate as you will run out of time for the offer. Also people for whom time is money should consider the time spend doing all the serial number writting for the mail-in-rebates and the trip to the post office.


Video Cards (GPU)






For people who run games at the 1080p resolutions and higher should look into buying an enthusiast line gpu. By buying such card you will ensure that it will be somewhat future proof for some years until it becomes absolete. However you should still choose such cards with reason and look for all the possible options. There are a few deciding factors for gpu that is:

1. Price
2. Performance
3. Cooling
4. Design (only if you will be able to see inside your case 24/7)

What do the numbers on GPU mean?
Knowledge of it will greatly help you understand how good or how bad the video card is.

Nvidia Numbering System.
For instance the Nvidia cards use 3 digit system today with some class letter such as GTX 560 or GT 540, the class letters mean the following. (Today these are the main class letters Nvidia uses in the past there were additional classes such as GX2)

GTX: Enthusiast (will play most games on maxed and render videos quickly)
GT/GTS: Budget to Mainstream (Might have trouble running some games even on medium however if you do not plan on doing anything 3D heavy this card may be for you)

The digits are the most important thing before the class letters, a GT 550 is much slower then GTX 560. The digits are described below in more detail. (Do not confuse yourself with the older Nvidia cards as they use a 4 numbering system)

560
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The first number indicates how new the card is, however this does not mean that an Enthusiast gpu will be worse then the new mainstream cards, for instance a GTX 285 is many times faster then the GT 540. However a GTX 560 is faster then GTX 285 in most cases.

560
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The second number is sort of like how good the card is within its generation a simple deciding factor is anything that has second number as a 6 and above will run almost anything at max, and anything that has a 5 and below might be struggling to run some games even on medium.

560
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The last number is almost always 0 however sometimes you might see it being used but you will not see a great performance boost between lets say a GTX 580 and a GTX 585.


ATI follows a similar pattern but it uses a 4 digit system which works much like a 3 digit system, with the last 4th number almost never being used. However you will have to look at the benchmarks comparing the Nvidia GPU and ATI GPU as gtx 580 is much faster then ATI's hd 5850.

On many occasions you will see a constant debate with the following topic name ATI vs Nvidia, both are great brands however one might perform better on some benchmarks then the other this might be the case because the manufacturer such as Nvidia will pay the developers to optimize their software for their particular brand. That is why most games will have Nvidia logo at the intro, which means it will most likely run faster on the Nvidia brand. The future is unpredictable and we can never know for sure which brand will be better in the future. Today however if you look at the market share Nvidia does come on top of this one.


The Motherboard (sometimes refered to as mobo)





The motherboard is what holds and to what connects everything in your computer from the case itself all the way to the cpu.

Choosing a good motherboard may not be so easy as choosing a cpu or gpu, most motherboards will perform as good as the component you put inside it. However a good motherboards needs plenty of different expansion slots so when you wish to put new components in such as a network card or a sound card you will not need to buy a new motherboard.

One way to choose a motherboard is to decide what you are going to put inside it, for instance if you were to put a in a mainstream cpu such as i5 2300 and a GT 550 a motherboard around 60$-80$ should be more then enough. However when you are planning to buy an extreme edition top of the line cpu such as i7 2600K extreme and also planning to run 2 or more gpus the motherboard should also be just as good so it will not bottleneck its components. A price is a good indicator of how good the motherboard is for the above scenario a 200$+ mobo should do it.

Make sure when you get your motherboard it will fit inside your case which sometimes refered to as the form factor, many motherboards have an ATX form factore which will fit inside most cases, however it will be wise to look up the form factor just in case so you will be sure that it will fit inside the case. Also make sure that the motherboard supports the cpu that you have since LGA1555 socket does not support LGA1556 socket so beware. AMD and Intel also have different sockets so if you are going to buy amd cpu you should also buy a motherboard that supports amd cpus and the same goes for the intel.

RAM (Memory)

RAM plays an important role in the performance of your computer. It is important to have enough RAM so you will not experience any slow downs because of it. Below is a list which should give you a better idea of how much RAM you might need to perform certain tasks.

-4GB-6GB just general browsing, watching videos, playing music but nothing too hardware intensive

-8GB   High end gaming with max settings, usually always enough and quite future proof also

-16GB Getting something like 16GB and over usually only pays off if you do heavy video encoding and do a     lot of 3D modelling.


Today you should always get DDR3 RAM as most of the motherboards support it and the price is just right compare to 2 years ago when DDR3 cost sometimes three times as much as DDR2. Another important point is the speed of your RAM sometimes you will see things like Corsair DDR3 1333Mhz or 1666Mhz, anything that is 1333Mhz and higher is the way to go. However the higher speed RAM might perform just about the same if you do not plan to overclock much.

The Power Supply (PSU)





One of the things that get often overlooked and not paid much attention to is the power supply. Your computer will not even start if the power supply is not powerfull enough. The deciding factor for the psu should be the brand as the wattage is not a clear indicator of how good and how powerfull the power supply is. For instance a 650W powersupply from Corsair might be just as good as the 750W psu from a brand that no one ever heard of. Another important factor is the lifespan of the power supply a known brand will last quite awhile before a failure. By buying a powersupply in the pricerange around 90$-100$ and from a known brand such as Corsair, Antec or OCZ, you will ensure that the powersupply will not damage your system in case of a power outage and will not die after a year which might be a case with some very cheap psu.

The Case (Tower)






When buying a case keep in mind that a case has no impact on performance whatsoever besides the cooling if you are overclocking and you need your tower to be very cool, however with the new hydro cooling systems even that might not be a case anymore. A good tower should be easy to open and easy to install components into, it should not have easily breakable parts. Most cases have usb and other IO ports in its front panel and they are a very good to have.



The Conclusion


Building an awesome rig can be challenging but with proper knowledge of the parts you will be able to build a very solid computer for anything you throw at it. It is also much cheaper to build a computer rather then get a prebuild one from the store. When you are in control of what you put inside your rig you will ensure that the components will last a long time and have a great performance.


Guide to building your computer:
http://cytech.blogspot.com/2011/09/great-guide-to-building-your-computer.html

20 comments:

  1. Hi, I am looking to build a computer as a cheaper alternative to a store brought one. I know next to nothing about hardware in computing, I was wondering whether you could help me with a couple of questions.

    As i said before my computer knowledge is limited , but the memory or the hard drive is not on this page, does this mean that the computer can operate without them?

    Secondly, what does a barebones computer contain, i tried to read the information but couldnt interpret it. Do they have a motherboard, memory , hard drive , disc drive etc. included?

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  2. I will help you as much as I can on your build and give you reccomendations on which parts to get. As for the memory and hard drive the computer must have those things, however DVD might not always be needed if you will be installing Operation System from a USB.

    To be able for me to give you the right reccomendations on what to get I need to know what you will be doing on the computer. Just answer in the following

    1. Are you gonna play latest games on max settings, 3D rendering?, Heavy Video Encoding?, things like that.

    2. Your budget that you are willing to spend.


    If you provide me with these I will answer as soon as I can. Also I will update the post so it will have RAM (sometimes called just memory) and Hard Drive(HDD).

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  3. Thank you for replying, great guide by the way.

    I want to be able to play new games such as Guild Wars 2 to a reasonable quality and a decent fps. 3D rendering and Heavy Video Encoding seem a bit over my budget.

    The budget will be maximum £600 or $960

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  4. Ok you can build a really nice tower for 900$ without monitor and other stuff, if you are on a really tight budget you can just get AMD Cpu and ATI 6870. However if you want your computer to last for awhile about 3 years more or less then I reccomend getting intel cpu.

    Here is the first build that cost around 900$
    CPU: anything that is i5 2400 and higher such as i5 2500
    GPU: Nvidia 560 non Ti (Anywhere you go though you will see everyone say to get the ATI 6870 however I know people who had both of them and they said 560 is much better. However its up to you.)

    PSU: get a nice power supply from brands like Corsair or Antec 650W is more then enough and even though its way above the needed amount it will therefore last a really long time.

    Hard Drive: They are really cheap now just get 1TB Seagate brand.

    RAM: G.SKILL brand sells really nice memory for a decent price get 4 sticks 2GB each so total would be 8GB make sure your mobo has 4 RAM slots.

    Case: Get any case really for around 50-60$ also get the ones without power supply as you will be buying one.

    Mobo: well Z68 series are new and quite nice for a price, around 100$ for a motherboard.


    Also it really depends on where you buy your parts as in general most stores sell them overpriced which means you will have better luck buying online. So check the store price then check online.

    This rig above will run games like crysis almost on full ultra settings, and other games will run smooth maxed out. About the 3D modelling and Video Encoding any computer can render it just how fast is the question.

    If you want to spend even less then just get AMD cpu X4 anything over 3GHz should be fine, then get ATI 6870 for GPU. Any cheap motherboard should do it from BIOSTAR. This build may cost you from 200$-100$ less then previous one totaling around 700$-800$.


    Also when you have decided on your parts you can post them here so I can tell you if they are compatible if you are not sure.

    Another tip (I will include it in guide) is when you assemble your computer make sure to touch the metal inside your case anywhere, this will ground you and take away any static that you build up, so you will not fry any of your parts.

    Also if you do not mind me asking do you reside in Canada, USA or any other country as each country has some really nice computer stores which sell prices almost as if you were to buy it online.

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  5. Case:

    http://www.tekheads.co.uk/product/Asus-TA-8H1-BlackSilver-Midi-Tower-No-PSU_25855.html

    Processor/CPU:
    http://www.pc-titan.com/product_info.php?currency=GBP&info=p5006_Intel-Core-i5-2400--4x-3-10GHz--boxed--BX80623I52400-.html

    Graphics card: I cant find the one you said , is this a decent replacement? A friend recommended it http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/NVIDIA/NVIDIA+GTX+460+Series/EVGA+GeForce+1024MB+GTX+460+SuperClocked+Graphics+Card+?productId=46085

    PSU:
    http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Power+Supplies/650W+or+less/650W+OCZ+ZS+Series+ATX2.2+80PLUS+Bronze+Power+Supply+?productId=45458

    RAM:
    http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/DDR3/Dual+Channel+1600MHz/8GB+Corsair+Vengeance+Black+LP+%282x4GB%29+DDR3+PC3-12800C9+1600MHz+Dual+Channel+Kit+-+CML8GX3M2A1600C9+?productId=45511

    I couldnt find any 4x2gb, how much of a game changer is 2x4gb?

    Hard drive:
    http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Hard+Drives/SATA+%28Serial+ATA%29/500GB+to+1TB/1TB+Western+Digital+Caviar+Blue+WD10EALX+3.5%22+SATA+III+Hard+Drive+?productId=45412

    Motherboard:
    Not sure if this is compatible, and does having a cheaper motherboard affect performance? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-SKT-AM2-AM3-GA-M68M-S2P-Motherboard/dp/B0033PUMYI/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1315350329&sr=1-4

    I currently live in the UK

    Thanks again

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  6. Well the one thing I would really change is the motherboard as the one you choose will not really scale up to its tasks since you will be putting some good components in it so for the motherboard I reccomend. Just noticed the motherboard you choose is for AMD cpus not for intel so if you were to buy that one the intel i5 2400 cpu will not fit. Below is the one that will support the i5 2400.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-Z68A-D3-Motherboard-Express-Gigabit/dp/B005HNY6JQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1315351266&sr=1-2

    it might go for even a cheaper price somewhere else.

    For GPU the one you got there is very good indeed or if you want ATI you can just get 6870 they perform for about the same, however the 460 is great I would choose it over ATI.

    As for the RAM you just have to buy two of the dual module kits meaning there are 2 sticks in a pack that have 2GB on them. So you just buy 2 of those kits so you have 4 sticks and each has 2GB. You can choose other similar RAM if you find it. Also about the 2x4 the thing is if ur mobo is dual channel with 4 slots then getting 2x2 and another 2x2 is faster then 4x2 since 2GB Ram performs usually faster then a 4GB stick.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMZ4GX3M2A1600C9-1600MHz-Vengeance-Memory/dp/B004O69XAY/ref=sr_1_15?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1315351708&sr=1-15

    Also don't forget to get yourself a copy of Windows 7, you can get Enterprise edition but its up to you as price varies.

    ALso get a DVD-RW which is a DVD drive so you can read and write DVDs and CDs.

    It might be a good idea to look at many websites that you plan to buy from as price varies and warranty too, the ones I would use are Amazon, TigerDirect, Newegg, however I am not sure if you will be able to get stuff from Newegg and TigerDirect as I am unaware of their UK shipping.

    Hope this helps=)

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  7. Ok ill go for that motherboard i found it at 80 pounds at another website. Tigerdirect and Newegg seem to be US based only. I'll take your advice and buy two sets for the RAM.

    Now for the shipping , and then the building part which I actually have no idea about, Im not the easiest person to help =/

    So for a fully functioning PC I need:

    Case
    GPU
    CPU
    RAM
    PSU
    HARD DRIVE
    DVD-RW
    Monitor
    Mouse
    HDMI Cable
    Motherboard

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  8. I just found this processor off Amazon seems to be same speed but cheaper, any reason not to get it?
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Phenom-3-2GHz-Processor-Boxed/dp/B002TQYUAE/ref=cm_lmf_tit_1_rsrsrs0

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  9. £630 this all comes to with the monitor price included, fantastic =D.

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  10. Don't forget that you will also need a Windows 7 copy you should buy that one from a computer store as prices should be same as online on that one.

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  11. Ok you shouldget the intel CPU since even though AMD cpu is faster in GHz the i5 2400 will greatly outperform it even though it has less Ghz. Also make sure you buy compatible motherboard like the one I showed you before for Intel, or vice versa if you want to stick with the AMD. Also you do not need an HDMI cable if your monitor will not have an HDMI output, you should not worry about buying cables really as all cables usually come with the parts, and the GPU has an adaptop which lets you connect white cable to the blue one speaking in more complex terms DVI to VGA. Well the buying part should be simple you just enter your address and it should ship within a couple of days if you paid it with Visa or any other method. Also just in case list the final parts you are gonna buy just in case. While your parts ship I will make a guide on how to assemble your computer which should help you greatly.

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  12. Ah yes I forgot windows 7. I think Ill go for the Intel one if it outperforms the AMD. The monitor I have my eye on will have a HDMI port I think:
    http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/19%22+Acer+G195HQVb+Widescreen+LCD+Monitor+?productId=45999

    Ill look forward to the guide, and thanks once again for helping me out mate

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  13. Yes I just found a really nice comparison of the two cpus that you wanted the i5 2400 and AMD Phenom II 955 X4. You want to look at single threaded performance and if you scroll to the bottom you will see games performance.

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=363

    Enjoy.

    Also it makes little difference if you were to use HDMI or DVI port as the difference with HDMI is that it can carry a sound signal and is mostly used in home theatre systems. Also for monitor I would reccomend getting Samsung, BenQ or if there is a good deal on a monitor on Amazon as 21.5 inch monitors can have great deals on them and cost about the same as the 19" one.

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  14. Wow I am surprised how much the AMD gets slaughtered.

    For the monitors, maybe they are cheaper in the USA but the cheapest 21 inch i can find on Amazon is £102 so Ill keep an eye out for the monitor.

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  15. So as you can see intel is really quality cpu, as for the monitors I have 2 BenQ 21.5" I got them I think for 160$-140$(for one monitor not 2) I remember they had instant rebate like 20$ off so it was really a good deal.

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  16. If the CPU has intergrated graphics included will that affect my other Nvidia GPU?

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  17. Is it also possible to overclock with these parts? Not enitirely sure what overclocking is, but it increases the performance of your system by20%?

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  18. Ok I will post the building guide soon, as for integrated graphics it may or may not affect the performance of your dedicated gpu the one you put in the expansion slot. However it would be wise to buy a motherboard that does not support integrated graphics as you will have no use for it since you are getting a dedicated gpu.

    For overcloking personally as cool as it sounds and the potential huge benefits I never overclock. As overclocking limits the lifespan of your hardware and if you are not carefull or you are simply unlucky then you can burn your hardware. To counter the overheating people buy expensive coolers. So basically each time people overclock they walk a line between life and death of their hardware.

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  19. Ok thanks , Ill leave the overclocking alone then =P

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  20. Alright the new guide has been posted.

    http://cytech.blogspot.com/2011/09/great-guide-to-building-your-computer.html

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